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Huw McKay's avatar

Meyrick, I wrote about a breakdown of relationships between commodity currencies and commodity prices over at Money Inside and Out. There may be a read through to your observation on Cu and 5/5. One thing that springs to mind for the overall time series (not just the recent curiosity) is that the copper price broke out of its historical nominal range due to the cost shock of the 2021-23 period, and that the new SRMC level creates a floor that prevents it from adjusting back to pre-pandemic nominal levels ($8000/t is the new $4000/t in LME terms). In other words, there is a structural break.

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Andy Fately's avatar

Having been involved in the markets for more than 40 years, I sense that the current situation of correlation breakdowns is unprecedented. while it was not unusual in the past for one or two long-term correlations to break, it is almost as though every relationship has busted. What exactly does risk-on or risk-off mean anymore? Ultimately, I cannot look at the copper market, and take my understanding on what is required to dig more of it out of the ground (which while not exhaustive is reasonably robust as I continue to try to learn more about the processes) and see that over time, the red metal must rally. but these days, timing is incredibly difficult. it could take 6 months of further decline before something catalyses a rebound.

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